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    Ah, OK, Inner Prop, the subject here shall be to activate WiFi and keep the other data channel off; the latter, in general guidelines, is the OTA connection (Over The Air); according to the model, I only guess it can be UMTS (which I doubt it is), or EVDO (most probably, because of the carrier and the generation of the device). That one has to be kept shut off so the device doesn't yell: "yohooo, hellooooo, I'm using data here, ..." The purpose here is that you get WiFi working, you can get online at spots without the costs of OTA connection.

    Yet... I reckon you will have to go through the brochures, cause I ain't got the rippest idea of how to keep OTA off and WiFi on in your device
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    'Zactly Hal. EVDO is the thing that needs to be kept off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hal View Post
    I reckon it's the same injury, only resurfacing after a bunch of moons. Hurt knees never heal. You just find the way to live with it. I hurt my knees 18 years ago, and to the day, when I have to lift something heavy, I gotta keep aware of both knees.
    Nope. It was just a little over a year ago that I hurt it. I played rugby in college, then post college when I moved back to NJ, then an errant blow during a blocking drill at practice and BOOM. Knee goes a-busted.

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    Actually, Verizon has done me a "favor" and disabled the WiFi on their version of this phone. No fear of accidentally thinking I'm using WiFi and not (I was actually going to ask around here and see if a. the equipment is still in there for WiFi, and b. if anyone knew how to turn it on).

    Also, I not only blocked data on my entire plan, I locked, bolted, hired a guard and a dog. My teenage daughter made that a requirement.

    So, no fears (anymore).

    Good advice though.
    IIRC, Verizon's version has no wifi, hidden or otherwise.
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    IIRC, Verizon's version has no wifi, hidden or otherwise.
    I'm beginning t suspect we have just found out why they were willing to let him have it without a data plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hook View Post
    I'm beginning t suspect we have just found out why they were willing to let him have it without a data plan.
    Yep! From the CNET review:

    Now, although the HTC Vox included Wi-Fi, the SMT5800 does not. But don't worry: It is EV-DO capable.
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    That's only a little disappointing. I liked my T5 w/o WiFi. If I can surf with my PC and download a site or two for later reading I would be okay with that (not overjoyed, but okay). I don't really go to WiFi hot spots.

    I'll have to make sure my next computer and printer are Bluetooth though. Oh, and my WiFi keyboard will have to sit in the wings with my TX and wait until the world is desperate, to come out of retirement and save the day!

    Still, I wonder if "does not include" really means no hardware, or just no software.

    Does Verizon let any of their phones have WiFi? Doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by questionfear View Post
    Nope. It was just a little over a year ago that I hurt it. I played rugby in college, then post college when I moved back to NJ, then an errant blow during a blocking drill at practice and BOOM. Knee goes a-busted.
    Ah, that's the story with your knee. It hurts, right? In years of sports I never got the knees hurt until Senior High School, and that was because of bad warmup before running long distance jog. No ill-wish block involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Inner Prop View Post
    Still, I wonder if "does not include" really means no hardware, or just no software.
    That's a good question. In similar guidelines, in the iPod Touch / iPhone platform, there is a Bluetooth radio onboard, but it's so crippled that it's as good as absent.
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