How Can I Connect My T Series Model to a Wi-Fi Network?

[imported_twolf]

Originally posted by generaljoe
I don't think people will ever stop being pissed off that products they bought *that advertised certain features* then cannot deliver these features for reasons other than technical.
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I could understand it if I had bought something which was not at all compatible with, say, SDIO cards, and had then wanted to run SDIO and couldn't. However, I bought something with guaranteed SDIO compatibility (the features I wanted, and yeah, it was advertised as being SDIO compatible) and then find that through economics my kit is useless for one of the purposes for which it was bought. Tchah.

Of course, all of your complaints are predicated on the assumption that the T is *not* SDIO compatible. But where is your evidence that this is, in fact, the case? Just because SanDisk's wifi card doesn't work on the T? From what I've read in other forums, it appears that the SDIO spec is simply too lax - it apparently allows implementors to make design decisions that lead to incompatibilities.

I agree with another poster that if you buy a device based on assumptions on what it might be able to do in the future instead of what it can do for you now, you must take responsibility for when those assumptions don't pan out.

I'm actually as guilty of this as you! I definitely wanted wi-fi for my Tungsten - heck, I even bought a wireless router based on the assumption! But I don't blame Palm because SanDisk/Sychip can't build a wifi card that works with the T.

Just my $.02,
tom

[klw]

actually, if I remember correctly, when the Palm drivers for the SanDisk SDIO WiFi card are released, the TT will be one of the supported devices. This is because P1 correctly implemented the SDIO spec and can supply enough juice to power the card.

Be careful what you wish for generaljoe, because your wish will come true in August...

[sublime]

Originally posted by klw
actually, if I remember correctly, when the Palm drivers for the SanDisk SDIO WiFi card are released, the TT will be one of the supported devices. This is because P1 correctly implemented the SDIO spec and can supply enough juice to power the card.

Be careful what you wish for generaljoe, because your wish will come true in August...

Oh so now the Sandisk wifi is set for August? Did I miss another set back?

Whoever talked about the Sony and Compaq upthere regarding not supporting customer is absolutely false. I can't say much about Sony, but from being a long time customer of Compaq Ipaq line I can say they've been better than most especially Palm. Sony, although I despise their proprietary standards, at least had the MS wifi out long time ago. Anyways, I bought my T3 based not on assumptions but someone's announcement that the SDIO wifi will be available for the T3. Also, why are people blaming Sandisk for this driver issue? Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this a license issue with Palm???

[Skagen]

I think this story/POV reflects the fact the we often pay far too much for PDA's - assuming that they will do XYZ great stuff in the future.

Basically, I don't care what the manufacturer says an item will do later on. If it can't do it out the box, then you shouldn't take your money and pay a price that includes the vapor value. Thats the only way manufacturers will get the message from us as conusmers.

You can complain all you want on this board, but they don't care - they already got your money, and that's all that counts to them. Honor doesn't exist in the business world Next time, don't pay top dollar for implied future value.

Me personally I think this whole TT/T2/T3 journey has been a clear lesson about that - its unlikely I will ever buy a brand new top-end product from Palm. There's way too much undeserved premium in there. I'll stick to used items or mid-range.

[Polychrome]

Originally posted by FullAction
Well, in this matter it's unclear, who to point the finger to. The SanDisk WiFi card exists and drivers for the PPC plattform also exist. So why should SanDisk omit the Palm plattform, if they think they can make good money on it?
Note that I didn't say anything about the quality of the card or SanDisk's offerings in general, as I haven't got first hand experience, but the fact that a company foregoes a possibility to make money is making me wonder, if technical incompetence is the only reason for the absence of a good WiFi solution for Palm handhelds.

Some dude I don't know once said that you should NEVER look for conspiracy where you can find incompetence. And God knows we've found more than enough of the latter in Sandisk's handling of this wi-fi card.

I know what you're thinking, (since you're most likely pointing at the usual scapegoat here) but it ain't reality. MS does not hate Palm. They praise and advertise 'em all over MSN in the form of "top gadget lists" and such.

[sublime]

Frankly, I don't think MS gives a hoot about Palm anymore. Palm is losing market share and they are trying hard to go the smartphone route as MS is. With MS deep pockets and many allies supporting the windows platform, I doubt they are concerned about Palm gaining up on the market.

[FullAction]

Originally posted by Polychrome
I know what you're thinking, (since you're most likely pointing at the usual scapegoat here) but it ain't reality. MS does not hate Palm. They praise and advertise 'em all over MSN in the form of "top gadget lists" and such.

Actually I was not pointing to MS or anyone else, and not in the least was proposing a conspiracy theory.
I just think, that for developing a driver you'll need inside information about the OS. I know that MS is providing at least a good part of this information for their plattform. Heck, they even provide you with a full featured C++ and VisualBasic development studio for free and all SDKs and Emulators without any registration process.
AFAIK Palm still hasn't released information about the DIA area of the T3 (at least a lot of programmers, like the ones of Fitaly, complain about this). So it makes me think, if missing information might be the most significant reason, that we haven't seen drivers for the Wifi card. Shortsightness, Incompetence or just not enough people to get a good documentation together, there are a lot of possible reasons.

[generaljoe]

What I was actually saying, guys, is that the villain here is Palm. Sandisk have amde a product which works, they will be releasing drivers that work.

with OS 5.2.1. NOT with 5.0.

Which is what the TT runs.

Now, if Palm made available the update to 5.2.1 from 5.0, which they haven't for the TT, then I wouldn't have a problem.

Make sense now guys? All I want is to be able to update my TT to the current revision of the OS it shipped with so I can use a peripheral.

[Polychrome]

With the TT being flashable, how do you even know that Palm won't release a patch anywho?

Let's see what happens before the panic starts. (Though, right now I'd rather have a TT and an enfora than a TE and nothin. :P )

[DeanDC10]

Originally posted by generaljoe
What I was actually saying, guys, is that the villain here is Palm. Sandisk have amde a product which works, they will be releasing drivers that work.

with OS 5.2.1. NOT with 5.0.

I believe what I have read is that the SanDisk WiFi SD card will support Palm OS 5.0 and newer.

They have also said that they will not support 4.x or older.....

Based on this any Palm device with Palm OS 5.x should be fine, Tungsten T, T2, T3, E, etc.....