Verification of 3 New Palms

[Scorpio]

I am hoping that the T|T3 will have OS6.0 loaded.

If so the speed of the device will be at native ARM speed rather than being cranked down to Dragonball 68K snail trail.

My $AU 0.03

[SoSII]

Originally posted by Scorpio
I am hoping that the T|T3 will have OS6.0 loaded.

If so the speed of the device will be at native ARM speed rather than being cranked down to Dragonball 68K snail trail.

My $AU 0.03

I think you will be disappointed!!!

[palmfetish]

Originally posted by SoSII
I think you will be disappointed!!!

Which brings us to the ROM size/upgrade issue...
OS 6 wont be too far behind the T3. It would be a shame if less than 5 months later the T3 is rendered obsolete.

[SoSII]

Originally posted by palmfetish
Which brings us to the ROM size/upgrade issue...
OS 6 wont be too far behind the T3. It would be a shame if less than 5 months later the T3 is rendered obsolete.

but given the likley timeline, this is what is going to happen...OS6 will effectively, render all OS5 devices obsolete, thats progress I guess! But we shouldnt be surprised....

[palmfetish]

The assumption here is that the hardware wouldnt be a limitation as Palm SG would have learned from their mistake w/ the T and its limited ROM. Following on that assumption I make the previous comment.
I appreciate that change (progress) is a given but when OS6 rolls out, the investment in the T3 would still be a recent one. I for one would feel shafted by Palm (yet again) should there not be an upgrade path. IMO These devices should survive at least one major OS change.

I guess by doing it their way Palm is assured of future revenue?

[SoSII]

Originally posted by palmfetish
The assumption here is that the hardware wouldnt be a limitation as Palm SG would have learned from their mistake w/ the T and its limited ROM. Following on that assumption I make the previous comment.
I appreciate that change (progress) is a given but when OS6 rolls out, the investment in the T3 would still be a recent one. I for one would feel shafted by Palm (yet again) should there not be an upgrade path. IMO These devices should survive at least one major OS change.

I guess by doing it their way Palm is assured of future revenue?

i absolutely agree... wasnttrying to be patronizing at all....if there is a clear upgrade path to OS6 for the T3, TE etc then fine! I (likwe you and many others) am just a little battle weary with the false claims for the TT (wot no netfront!!) and still no 5.2.1 , and the wandering digiitizer and...... etc etc..

lets hope for the best!

[ianjd]

Originally posted by palmfetish
The assumption here is that the hardware wouldnt be a limitation as Palm SG would have learned from their mistake w/ the T and its limited ROM.

I still don't understand why PalmSG released the TT with so little free ROM. The fact that the ROM s/w erroneously reports 8Mb (eg. Filez) suggests to me the original design did have 8Mb, then some genius realised that the US version could fit into 4Mb, and saved a few bucks on hardware, without a great deal of forethought.

These devices should survive at least one major OS change.

They may yet find a way to squeeze 5.2.1 into the TT with sacrifices, but I suspect folk will be somewhat underwhelmed.

I guess by doing it their way Palm is assured of future revenue?

And a bunch of annoyed power users, not that they constitute a sizable chunk of the buyers, though. Someone mentioned recently that only 5% of Palm owners buy any 3rd party software, Lord alone knows how many users stump up for OS upgrades, or even install free ones. The number of folk that are put out by this screwup has to be somewhere in the sales noise.

[electrospark]

[i] in response to ianjd, i agree that the price point is questionable. If the T2 was priced at 699$ or thereabouts before it's official release date, why would the T3 be priced at 399$ already?

from my perspective, $399 is PLENTY for devices of the feature set and capability we're talking about here. It's not like the T 3 is some completely new technology...it's based upon the T, which is now about a year old...so, they're stuffing in some more RAM and a newer (but still primitive) OS, and want to charge a premium for it?

I don't think so! Look at the desktop world...you can buy complete DT rigs for $600, whose functionality by far eclipses that of the PDA. But we're supposed to submit to a shameless milking just because these things are pocket-sized?

To me, a T3 for $399 would be the proper price, and a step toward making Palm devices competitive and where they ought to be.

Plus, they need to be much, MUCH faster.

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[sjweise]

Originally posted by richardwharvey
I just got back from CompUsa and in their computer system are the three new Palms.


Tungsten T3 Hard Case
Tungsten E Hard Case
Tungsten E,C & W Stylus

This seems to indicate that for some reason the existing Palm Hard Case for the T & T2 won't fit the T3 for some reason. Also that the Tungstgen E uses the same stylus as the T & T2.


Peace

I think that if the T E uses the same stylus as the C and W than it would be a non-slider PDA, isn't the TT stylus different because of the slider?. Its probably comes with either VG or a keyboard like the C and W. My guess is possibly a Tungsten quality (processor, 16mb internal) w/o BT and VG. That would be a decent entry level device at 200. It would also blow the crap out of the M series PDAs, assuming it has the newer screen and audio.

[architect]

Originally posted by electrospark
from my perspective, $399 is PLENTY for devices of the feature set and capability we're talking about here. It's not like the T 3 is some completely new technology...it's based upon the T, which is now about a year old...so, they're stuffing in some more RAM and a newer (but still primitive) OS, and want to charge a premium for it?

I don't think so! Look at the desktop world...you can buy complete DT rigs for $600, whose functionality by far eclipses that of the PDA. But we're supposed to submit to a shameless milking just because these things are pocket-sized?

No, i wasn't talking about the final pricing of the device. What i was talking about is earlier threads, in which people found that PRIOR to the TT2's official release date, inventory systems had the device priced much higher (meaning they were not ready to be released).

For example, i believe circuit city had te TT2 priced at 699$ before the august release, and then they lowered it to 399$ and gave the people who paid 699$ back some money.

Therefore, my question is: Why is the TT3 already priced at 399$? Would stores that have this item in their inventory not price it higher for the time being since the release date is quite far away?