wifi universal password???

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  1. omarello

    omarello Mobile Consultant

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    Hi all there

    A buddy of mine, who also owns a TX, claims he has this password for un-locking protected wireless connections for the TXs wifi.
    But I insist and he wont give it to me.
    Does something like this really exists or is he only bluffing???


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  2. holvoetn

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  3. r0k

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    I'm pretty sure the universal key your friend was talking about starts like this...

    09F9...

    :D
     
  4. omarello

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    I talked to this guy once again and though he still claims it exists, and still refuses to give it to me,he explained what it is supposed to be:
    He looked for the default password in your typical router, and since many people just don't change them, it usually gets through..... or something like that,I really don't know anything about routers
    Does anyone knowifthisis possible?
     
  5. r0k

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    Yes. It used to be admin/admin. Some routers use the serial number printed on the bottom of the router. Others use admin/password. Not changing your router password is not a smart thing, but most people just plug them in and turn them on. One example of this is that I can use the neighbors' wifi when I'm at the local pool.

    BTW, the 09f9 thing is a joke having to do with DVD's. :D
     
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    He can always try admin/admin on my setup ... if he is able to 'see' my router to start with :rolleyes:

    So actually this turns out to be a discussion about WiFi router security ... hmm...

    Here is what I have:
    0- changed account/passwd to get in, not even resembling by far my usual account/passwd scheme
    1- changed name of BSSID to something completely irrelevant (with numbers and letter mixed)
    2- changed default IP address which was recommended for this type/model (it was suggested to set it at 192.168.0.1)
    3- disabled BSSID broadcasting
    4- enabled MAC filtering
    5- disabled remote management
    6- changed default Channel (13 is quite common around here :rolleyes: )
    7- enabled WEP encryption (WPA is a bit too slow to my liking)
    8- enabled NAT (more a measure to protect the computers behind the router)
    9- Firewall on
    10- disabled DMZ (you would be surprised how many have this open ...)

    Now,I am not saying nobody will ever be able to access my setup, but anyone ever wanting to do this will need quite some time which usually makes them hop to another, easier pray (which is to the left, to the right right ánd in front of where I live :rolleyes: ).
     
  7. headcronie

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    I've done everything Holvy has done, including setting up firewalls on all of my machines running in my home network. None of them are allowed to talk to the others. There won't be any botnet running on my systems, that's for sure.
     
  8. Adama D. Brown

    Adama D. Brown Brighthand Reviewer

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    Ah. Well, yes, but this doesn't get you access to protected WiFi at all--it simply lets you play with the settings on an already insecure router. In fact, you have to be able to connect to the AP in order to do this, so it's quite impossible to do it with protected WiFi. Your friend is either a bit clueless, or he's trying to make himself seem more knowledgeable than he is.
     
  9. potter

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    However WEP encryption can be broken. WPA, to the best of my knowledge, has not, yet.

    A hacker needs to monitor a WiFi to gather several thousand packs or so (a few hours to a day depending on traffic) then with available programs, they can work out the key with out too much trouble.
     
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    Provided they can 'see' my network, I would agree.
    And there is also MAC filtering in effect.

    There is more then one lock on the door ;)

    Besides, ANY encryption can be broken given time and processing power.
     
  11. potter

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    If they are in range (radio), they can see your network. With the SSID disabled they will not be able to see the ID of your network, but they will be able to see it.
    Aye.

    However:
    • Once the WEP key is cracked, they could eaves drop without the need of attaching to a network.
    • MACs can be forged, given the right network card.
    However, are we talking about hours (WEP) or decades (WPA).


    However, after saying all this: Question, what is the likelihood of someone trying to get through all these security measures? Do you have something which would be valuable enough? Most thieves go after the easy targets. When securing a home, enough security that makes it not worth the effort is enough. Does the analogy apply to securing WiFi networks? Probably. But when it comes to hackers, sometimes it is just the challenge.
     
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    Oh, and do I have big secrets to share :rolleyes:

    I already confirmed that :D
     
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