New to PDA - Suggestion between 2 PLEASE!

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  1. mrtbig

    mrtbig Newbie

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    I am looking at possibly a iPAQ 2795 or Palm TX.

    I want access to web, outlook, word, excel, possibly GPS, photo viewer, music player and I have a large genealogy data file that I can get a program for to use on a PDA and synch my file so I can use easily when researching at various places.

    What do you think of these devices is the best? Or is there something better?

    Thanks!

    UPDATE:: Also considering the Dell x50v or x51v. Also, is it a breaker to have windows mobile 2003 instead of windows mobile 2005? Is 2005 that much better?
     
  2. Konrad Pierce

    Konrad Pierce Village Idiot 2.0

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    I'm personally very pleased with all of the iPAQ hx2700s - in my experience, an hx2750 was the fastest, zippiest, most responsive PDA I've ever used. Even faster (for my kind of usage, anyhow) than many newer, more expensive machines with "better" specs.

    I haven't used Palms much at all (I'm a WM type) ... but from what I've heard, the TX is a very robust, capable, impressive device - perhaps the best Palm-type device available. I've even toyed with the idea of purchasing one myself, given all the TX acclaim in Brighthander talk I've eavesdropped on.

    Based on that, I'd say they're both great devices. Unless you require a specific OS platform to run certain apps or something, it's really all a matter of which path you would find most pleasing. The WM devices (like the hx2795) might have a bit more of a learning curve, but otherwise they seem to be pretty much on par overall.
     
  3. davidbec

    davidbec Mobile Deity

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    The iPAQ 2795 has a QVGA (240x320) screen on 3.5 inches of real estate. This may not be the best for viewing web pages and other graphics work.

    The TX has a HVGA (320x480) screen on 3.7 inches of real estate. A slightly better experience. However both are humbled by the VGA screens of the Dell Axim x50v and x51v PDAs.
     
  4. Konrad Pierce

    Konrad Pierce Village Idiot 2.0

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    The only reason I didn't specifically recommend the hx2795 is cost; if you could find some for sale under $250 I'd like to know!

    Again with the QVGA ... yeah, the HVGA is better <grumble grumble mutter> I can't say anything bad about it.
    But you generally have to pay a considerable premium for anything with VGA, sadly. I guess, bearing that consideration, you'll probably want to consider nothing smaller than a 3" screen ... it just makes eBooks, word processing, and spreadsheets annoyingly unworkable when you have to constantly scroll up/down and side-to-side. Bigger screen = better screen, even more important than the resolution.
     
  5. mrtbig

    mrtbig Newbie

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    I can get new 2795 for around $290 and I have seen the palms on ebay for about $200. The screen size is a difference but I am concerned with my large genealogy database that I need the fast processor of the 2795. Will the palm handle it well? It is about 400mb and I plan on putting it on a card.
     
  6. NamelessPlayer

    NamelessPlayer Mobile Deity

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    If the hx2795 costs as much as you guys are saying, then it seems ridiculously overpriced for a QVGA device. (Too bad that HP has yet to produce a VGA device since the hx4700.)

    ...Oh, wait, I keep on forgetting that the United States isn't the only country to use "dollars" and "cents" as currency, and that a certain poster here is from another country that also uses "dollars" and "cents"(Canada). What's the exchange rate, again?

    Anyway, if you're looking at the 200-300 US$ spectrum, I'd recommend a Dell Axim X50v or X51v without hesitation. Very well-rounded devices for the price, and yet they still have features that most other devices don't(VGA, and especially an OpenGL-ES-compliant GPU).

    Now, for the OP's requirements:

    Web browsing-Windows Mobile wins hands down, if only because of Opera Mobile and support for resolutions beyond HVGA.

    Outlook/e-mail-VersaMail and SnapperMail fetch my e-mail far faster than the integrated e-mail client on my X50v does(the latter seems to hang for a while just trying to log in). Regarding e-mail syncing, Palm OS devices can sync to just about any e-mail client I can think of, whereas WM devices are pretty much tied to Outlook for PIM data(I believe alternate clients such as Thunderbird can be used for e-mail, but I'm not sure). Both appear to sync e-mail from the desktop fine from my experiences.

    Word/Excel-WM devices have integrated Word and Excel apps, but they pale compared to Palm OS's Documents To Go(though the PowerPoint viewer on WM5 devices has less rendering artifacts). I can't comment on the popular Word and Excel substitutes for WM(TextMaker and something else, can't really remember), since I'm not buying them without a robust PowerPoint viewer AND editor.

    GPS-I don't know enough about this subject to make any judgment calls.

    Photo viewing-(W)VGA WM devices hold the lead because of screen resolution, and with Resco Photo Viewer, make nice digital photo wallets. The HVGA Palm OS devices follow(I'd suggest Resco Photo Viewer or GrxView for that platform), then 320x320 Palm OS devices, then the common QVGA WM devices.

    Music player-Both OSes are about equal. I'd suggest TCPMP for both platforms, as it's freeware and plays just about anything(except WMA and WMV for the Palm OS version). If you need WMA and WMV on Palm OS, as well as streaming support, there's Kinoma Player 4 EX.

    Look over those needs carefully, and decide which platform is for you. I'd still have to back up the X50v and X51v on the WM front, though you shouldn't overlook the hx4700 and the LOOX 720 or N560(is it that one that ditched the CF slot, but adds GPS?). Palm OS-wise, the T|X is pretty much the one to get.
     
  7. Streaky

    Streaky I can't remember

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    Welcome to Brighthand, mrtbig.

    No comments here, other than I suspect that a 400Mb database on the SD card is going to stretch pretty much any PDA.
     
  8. mrtbig

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    See update above. Another potential PDA and software question!
     
  9. Konrad Pierce

    Konrad Pierce Village Idiot 2.0

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    I've always been conscious of that fact :p ... If you'd like, you can review my past babblings and take note that I've either always posted "current" US prices or explicitly stated the value in non-US currency. I tend to refer to XE.COM for my conversions.

    As a rule of thumb, when browsing prices online, pretty much everything happens to be listed in USD$ on most sites by default (regardless of your actual location), so I'm generally quite aware of the US-equivalent pricing.
     
  10. NamelessPlayer

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    WM2003SE and WM5 differences:

    -WM2003SE and prior use the device's RAM to store data as well as for running programs. WM5 and later use the device's NVRAM for data storage and the RAM just for running programs, making it more like a PC in terms of memory usage. This results in several differences:
    -On a WM2003SE device, if the battery is completely drained, your data will be lost because the volatile RAM doesn't have any more power to retain contents, and the device will be in a hard-reset state. If a WM5 device were to lose all battery power, your data will still be present in the NVRAM, which doesn't need constant battery power, and the device will only be in a soft-reset state when you start charging it again. This also means that WM5 devices tend to have longer battery life than WM2003SE ones.
    -On the other hand, NVRAM is slower than volatile RAM, resulting in many people saying that WM5 feels slow compared to WM2003SE.
    -WM5 uses far more RAM than WM2003SE does given that the latter's RAM is not burdened with programs and data in storage and is allocated to function mostly as program memory. This probably won't be an issue for the vast majority of apps.
    -Some programs only run under WM2003SE. Others only run under WM5. Most run on both, or will have versions dedicated to either one.
    -Between the X50v and X51v, the former has a backup battery that keeps the RAM fed during a battery swap. The latter doesn't have one, but since it only runs WM5, you'll only have to deal with a soft reset.
    -Also just between the X50v and X51v, WM2003SE comes loaded with the WIDCOMM/Broadcom BT stack. WM5 on both uses the Microsoft BT stack by default, but the Broadcom one can be installed courtesy of a neat package hosted on the Aximsite forums. (However, the Broadcom stack doesn't seem to restore BT multiplayer functionality in one of my games...)
     
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