I'm looking for a new phone....

Discussion in 'Smartphones' started by Virinder, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. Virinder

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    Hi

    First time poster, long time reader here.....I've been looking for a new phone for a while now and my carrier is Verizon. I've been upgrade eligible for about a year now, and my Droid Eris is finally starting to give me problems, I think it's time to retire it and move on. I have about $100 Amazon credit to use, and I'd like to spend it towards my new phone. I think Verizon has scrapped it's "New Every Two" $50 credit, so I think I will go through Amazon rather than Verizon for the new phone.

    I've seen the new IPhone 5, and it seems great, but Amazon doesn't carry IPhones.....It also seems that Apple hasn't been innovative or groundbreaking, as it just is now getting 4G LTE and lacks a NFC chip or some of the other cool things phones like the Galaxy S3 have. Perhaps this is related to the passing of Steve Jobs?? Or, are other phone competitors finally catching up and surpassing Apple?? Either way, due to Amazon not supplying the new IPhone, I won't be getting it.

    I'm kinda over Droid phones after having my Eris, but the new Droid Razr Maxx HD has mostly everything I'm looking for in a phone. It has 4G, SUPER long battery life, and is blazing fast. Gorilla Glass & Kevlar-coated back is a nice touch, too. It even has NFC, like the Galaxy S3! But, the camera seems very subpar, and I'm really looking for a phone that will fulfill my everyday camera needs. It's shocking how grainy the pictures look from a Maxx HD even with 8 MPs!! Looks almost as bad as my Droid Eris (HTC Desire) with 5 MPs!! I'm really not open to buying a phone AND a camera when many phones have excellent cameras (see: Apple Iphones) already and I don't need a DSLR. I'm also not sure if I should hold off on getting a phone, because it seems that quad-core phones are starting to be released, and I don't know if I want to buy a phone that is already obsolete....

    Which brings me to the future-proof Nexus phones.....just not sure I want the Nexus 4 which lacks 4G LTE. There was another thread below that mentioned possible Nexus phones to be released. Any chance that the others mentioned, besides the LG Optimus Nexus (Nexus 4) will actually be released?? What about the Samsung Galaxy Nexus 2?? I don't think I could resist a Sony Xperia Nexus!! So, should I buy now or wait until the new year for a new quad-core phone with a terrific camera?? The camera should at least be as good as the IPhone 5's or Xperia's....please let me know if there's any news about such a phone, or if you can aid me in my decision. Thanks!!
     
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  2. Mi An

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    Welcome to brighthand! :)

    Nexus phones are a little bit future resistant with updates, but aren't future proof. I did a quick survey of past models somewhere. Support does end eventually. It's almost more about certainty -- you know you'll get a good support period, and fast release of updates, whereas elsewhere there's a lot more dice rolling and delays. As to other releases, there was an expectation starting in the summer that Google would feature 5 nexus devices on Nov 5th (IIRC). The Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 are current models, and maybe the old galaxy is still up, but I don't think there's really any info at all on when a possible Nexus 5 tabletphone, xperia nexus, or Gnex2 might hit. My own dreams of a nexus mini pro are pure science fiction.

    I'm all for people waiting for a good fit, but man, your droid eris is almost as old my Touch Pro2. That's ooooold. Might not be a bad time to just grab something nice if it isn't lacking in some enormous way. And waiting for something that doesn't have specs or even a time frame when you'll get specs is the sort of wait that can go on forever. If you are gonna wait, I'd hone in on one device and see just how substantive the rumors for it have been, and whether that's enough for you to wait for.
     
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  3. r0k

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    I have the iPhone 5. My work phone is a Motorola Droid Razr with LTE. So both of my phones have LTE. It's kinda funny. My iPhone 5 and Droid Razr arrived on the same day. On the 5, I logged in to iCloud and all my settings and apps came over from my iPhone 4. On the Droid, the only profile I had around was my google contacts and the darn things populated my work phone with personal email addresses just because I logged in to the gmail app on the phone. I wound up downloading a contact manager app to delete them all. Nothing is more frustrating than having my aunt's email address come up when I'm trying to respond quickly to an email at work. If I'm not careful and hit send, it's too late: data spill.

    On my iPhone 5, it feels like I can do very little to customize things. Also there's an Android app called wifi analyzer that I absolutely require. I can't get it on iPhone without jailbreaking and I'm really not ready to do that (yet). On the Android phone, I get very frustrated with the way the recent calls list is handled. On iOS, if I click a recent call, it dials. On Android, it takes me to a useless screen and I'm sometimes as many as 2 more useless screens away from actually getting the call going.

    I use Apple computers at home so I like having my photos, documents, contacts and calendar sync without any thought. I also like OTA backup and restore via iCloud. I also had a Samsung GP5 but gingerbread is ancient by today's standards so I basically hated it. I don't like having two sets of home screens on Android. One for widgets and one for apps. One set is enough already. If I were going to buy my own Android phone, I'd have to consider a Samsung device. They are the defacto flagship right now in terms of features though I must agree with Mi An that the Nexus models will probably benefit from more frequent updates. And herein lies another thing I like about iOS. Within hours of the new release of any iOS version, all my iThings with the exception of my not so ancient iPad 1 are all running the new OS.

    Then I come to your point about innovation. I feel it too. Apple seems to have slowed down a bit. Perhaps it's competitive pressure from Android and others but iOS doesn't seem to take the lead in every single category like it once did. That doesn't mean iOS isn't better, just not the best in every single category. One area is photography. I wish iOS had that rapid 12 shot thing where I could go back and pick the one(s) I like.

    Then there's slow to middling hardware releasing. It took way too long for Apple to come out with 4G. Granted it turns out maybe they didn't wait too long for LTE since Verizon is the only carrier with serious buildout and the other 3 are all playing catch-up, still Apple slapped a 4G screen icon on iPhone 4S rather than bring us new radios until iPhone 5 and that cost them dearly. Now that the data speed playing field is finally level, if Foxconn can build the darn things I expect iPhone 5 to kick some serious butt in terms of market share. I find myself feeling a bit about Apple like I did about Palm back in the heady Tungsten|T days. I'm particularly annoyed about the lightning connector. It seems like an overreach on Apple's part. They have over a billion users of the 30 pin connector so they introduce a new one just because. So you can plug it in backwards. It's nice. In fact it's WAY NICER than that micro USB thing I never manage to plug in the right way on the first try. But having to have multiple adapters lying around just grinds my nerves and the jury is out on whether the lightning adapter causes people to hesitate in buying iThings.

    With the exception of the lightning plug and iPad 1 failing to get iOS6, I rate iThings as far more future proof than any Android gear. If future proof is important to you and you don't mind the "walled garden" and "curated" computing, consider an iPhone 5. This is especially true if you own a Mac. Managing data between my three Apple devices is the definition of seamless.
     
  4. Virinder

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    Looks like my prayers have been answered.....Verizon accidentally leaked the Droid DNA announcement today, which is supposed to be unveiled tomorrow Tuesday 11/12!! If these specs turn out to be true, and the camera is terrific (or at least an improvement over the Motorola RAZR Maxx HD) & there is NFC, then I might be in business. I hope the battery life is solid, but I expect the quad-core would drain the battery pretty quick, right??

    The Droid DNA is actually a HTC DLX, and after having the Droid Eris (HTC Desire), I'm not sure I want another HTC phone. The battery life was horrible , lots of bugs and problems (freezing), and the camera was terrible. How does the the quality of phones go in order?? Is it: Apple>Samsung>HTC>Motorola>LG?? Where does HTC fit in?? I hope the Droid DNA works out, but if not, I guess I might have to check out the RAZR Maxx HD (hard to beat that battery life!)

    EDIT: Looks like the the Droid DNA has a 8 MP camera, not a 12 MP camera that was rumored by Ed Hardy, and it ONLY has a 2,020 mAh battery to power everything the phone has, but no microSD slot & only 16GB storage capacity. I probably can't get the phone unless it comes out in a Maxx or Maxx HD version....not with the poor battery life it will likely have. It needs at least 2,500 mAh or 3,000+ to give it even a decent battery life. Damn, HTC is screwing with me again!! I wish Amazon carried the IPhone!!
     
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  5. Drillbit

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    With regards to iOS devices, what is the point of future proofing when the future is just improvements for an aging OS?

    As for the Nexus 4, the phone has an LTE chip but lacks an baseband amp to enable LTE. Meaning LTE is built in, but to get LTE, Google and LG has to get a deal with a carrier which will get supplied with LTE enabled phones specific for that carrier. However this cannot be back fitted on existing phones, nor will one LTE phone work with another network. In other words, like CDMA, LTE is not an interoperable standard like GSM or wifi. The LTE phone is also locked to the carrier, which means they own it not Google, and they are responsible for the pricing and approving the updates.

    As far as Droid goes, the RAZRs are Motorola and the Eris is HTC.

    If you are in Verizon, I would aim for the upcoming HTC Droid DNA for Verizon. Why? Its the world's first 1080p phone. While the Nexus 4 has the same powerful quad core Snapdragon S4 as the DNA, its still a 720p phone. Midway in 2013, 1080p will be the new top end standard and the 720p screen of the Nexus 4 will look so 2012.

    As for future updates, record shows that top end HTCs eventually get them mainly because more capable hardware are much more able to support the increased demands of future OS. There is a massive chasm between the Android 2.1 in the Eris vs the Android Jellybean in the DNA. Kind of like Windows 95 vs Windows 7. As for me, I'm a former Eris owner as well. Let me finally add that the reports of the DNA's camera is amazing as well. And it has LTE too. The drawback is that it does not have the Max HD's huge battery or Kevlar construction but the DNA is definitely is going to be much more future proofed than the Maxx HD.

    Rumors of the Xperia Nexus, Galaxy Nexus 2 did not work out --- they eventually become other phones like the Xperia AX and the Galaxy Premier. The other Nexus rumor was the alleged Nexus 5 by HTC. That phone did not turn put to be a Nexus but the Droid DNA.

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  6. Adama D. Brown

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    For high end spec sheets, maybe. I'm still not convinced that the average user will really notice any difference.
     
  7. Mitlov

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    Agreed. It's not exactly easy to make out individual pixels on a 720p phone. And for most people, if they can't see individual pixels on a 720p phone, 1080p won't look notably sharper to them.

    To me, this is like the debate between 1080p 13" laptops and Apple's retina MacBook Pro 13, or the advent of seven-speed and eight-speed automatics in cars. While more used to be better, I think we're hitting the threshold where more is just for the sake of having more, and it's not a noticeable benefit anymore.
     
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    Apart from restrictions that are a purposely fundamental part of iOS, it seems to manage to stay quite modern functionality wise within those restrictions, it still does a lot of things better than android does imo, I'd really like to know what you mean by aging?...genuine question.
    I agree with Adama, the only place it will matter is in the marketing literature...and a few geeks minds, others will buy into it because the phone they like comes with that resolution, not because it offers any tangible benefit.

    OP, Future proof is a fantasy, buy technology for what it does for you today, not what it 'might' do in the future after software updates....if the hardware supports it...imo :D
     
  9. Drillbit

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    He is obviously not an average user, the moment he mentions he wants to future proof his phone.

    Not to mention all the other text he added after that.
     
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  10. Drillbit

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    I am not really sure what "lots of things better" than Android it does, considering a lot of it is the other way around even among earlier versions of Android.

    Geez. Every phone out there will do any job competently. Based on the user's previous phone, I suspect he plans to keep his device for the next two years, so the point of contention is which phone isn't going to look so bad after two years.
     
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