I have crossed from another thread to this one and am very grateful. I have had SUDS and the shortcut one fixed it nearly. The PC and handheld are starting to talk but could not find the USB Driver and then the USB Sys which we achieved with some help. However the PC and I cannot fing a file PalmDevC.dll. either on the C:\Palm or on the Installation CD. Iam operating v4.0 on Handheld and v4.01 on PC. Operating a 505. Do you know eher i can find the library file. Mesa I hope I haven't broken any rules with this intrusion.