AT&T Will Now Unlock iPhones After Contract Expires!

Discussion in 'Carrier Discussions' started by Varjak, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. Varjak

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    Adama wrote that there was an FCC regulation, which is what I believed too. You stated that there was no such law or regulation or rule. Those two stances seem contradictory to me; but that wasn't my main point. My main point is that ATT didn't just start doing this out of the goodness of their heart.

    Edit: I do think that most news reports cited unlocking the iPhone; but I'm sure all phones are subject to the new policy.
     
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    ADAMA: Technically, it HAD been mandated. But they had a very, very strong profit motive in drawing it out and making it as difficult as humanly possible for a long time.

    JIGWASHERE: It's not mandated by any law or regulation that I'm aware of. Not in the United States.

    ADAMA: The FCC came out with a regulatory decision a couple years ago which established that carriers could not legally block the unlocking of phones for other networks, but most of the major carriers have been fighting this to a greater or lesser extent, at least where it comes to their bread and butter. The iPhone is a good example, where AT&T will unlock anything else you have, but they've gone out of their way to oppose iPhone unlocking.

    JIGWASHERE: Unlocking phones is legal, but carriers are under no legal our regulatory obligation to unlock them for you.

    VARJAK: I think Adama's take is correct. Once the contract was satisfied, the phone was supposed to be yours.

    And I'm 99 percent sure that ATT wouldn't be doing it now unless they got some pressure.

    JIGWASHERE: What Adama said is correct and it doesn't contradict anything I've stated.

    [All quotes, with nothing added.]
     
  3. jigwashere

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    Nothing added, but you did leave out context as well as my last comment. I had already responded to Adama's first post that incorrectly said, "Technically, it HAD been mandated." Adama and I have not contracted each other since that time. The fact is, there is no law, regulation, or official mandate to unlock phones in the United States. My last comment, which you left off, was asking you or anyone else to provide some evidence or citation if you believe otherwise. I have posted many times about this along with links to articles from Wikipedia, PCWorld, Consumerist, etc., that agree with me. Yet no one here has ever shown any shred of evidence that carriers are required to unlock phones based on some law.
     
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    No context was left out. Your response contradicted his as plain as day. As for a published regulation, I didn't have time to search for one; but I did find a 2007 and 2011 mention of a regulation.

    I 'left off' your last comment' because it didn't have to do with the assertion you made that you didn't say anything differently from Adama, when you did and you do so again above. Adama said there was a regulation, you said there wasn't. How much more clear does the difference have to be. (BTW, you also say he was correct, and now you're saying he's not.)

    I wasn't debating the existence or lack thereof of a regulation. That is something we should resolve. I'm debating your assertion that you weren't saying anything different, which you undoubtedly were.

    It's one thing to have a difference of opinion over something subjective; but these continual arguments over things that are black and white usually end up with me in trouble, for no reason I can think of.
     
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