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    My TP2 used to have Transcriber as an input option, but I don't see it anymore. I can read about it in the onboard Help file, but don't see any means to turn it on. "Transcriber is a handwriting recognition program that allows you to write in cursive, print, or a combination of both. Transcriber works transparently in the background of programs, recognizing words with its integrated dictionary. When Transcriber is turned on, it interprets stylus movement anywhere on the screen as handwriting input." Instructions for starting Transcriber:

    1. Start a program such as Word Mobile.
    2. Tap the Input Panel icon at the bottom center of the screen and tap the Input Selector arrow.
    3. Tap Transcriber.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LandSurveyor View Post
    All you've said rings true. Individual preference does have a lot to do with it.

    But there are a lot of variables separating our different experiences and I'm just as much a prisoner of my own perspective as anybody.

    When I hear or read that people have taken a liking to touchscreens, I always wonder how much text they're entering.

    I see that people adapt to touchscreens but I don't often hear that they consider them an improvement. And when I do, it's in comparison with a much less than ideal physical keyboard (because really, no small keyboard can be ideal).

    Does the biggest landscape touchscreen keyboard available work better than a physical keyboard of about the same size, such as a slider? Forget for the moment the disinclination to deploy said keyboard, just concentrate on actually using it.

    As far as usability is concerned, I think that for me, an oversized, portrait oriented device with a full (includes dedicated number row) keyboard, with no annoyingly misplaced keys, combined with a screen at least 3" diagonally, would work just fine. This would be about a quick to use as I can think of, especially with a keyboard/touchscreen lock button. Even my favorite, a clamshell (think LG Genesis) would take a back seat as it has to be unfolded to use.
    Quote Originally Posted by Varjak View Post
    I think LS is right. Most comments are pitched to the idea that on-screen keyboards can be 'almost as good' or 'acclimated to;' instead of described as outright better. One comment I remember from a while ago on BH was that even with a good on-screen keyboard, it obscures much of the screen real estate, even on large-screen phones. OTOH, I think Graffiti for Android might be a very good solution, if the touchscreen is sensitive and accurate.
    Okay, I'll say it, although I thought I had. My onscreen portrait keyboard is infinitely superior to my BlackBerry Bold hard keyboard, which I find worthless. On my Nexus, I type out emails and even write paragraphs at a time. I wouldn't think of doing that on my BlackBerry.

    I can't address Horizontal sliders. Never had one. and I rarely ever use my Nexus One in landscape, except for the Apple BT keyboard, which I rarely use because, if I'm going to haul that around, I'll just use my Neo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandSurveyor View Post
    When I hear or read that people have taken a liking to touchscreens, I always wonder how much text they're entering.
    Well....my youngest son has sent 10K text messages in a single month before with his iP4. Sounds like a lot to me. I personally only send about 500-700 per month along with who knows how many emails, Twitter, Facebook, Google+, Notes, Memos, Contacts, Calendar Dates, etc., etc., etc.

    I am with Hook on this one. Although I have never own a BB. I have had several Treos. I MUCH prefer the Keyboard of my iP4 than any thing I have ever had.

    And Graffiti?? Really??? I hated Garffiti when it was my only option!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hook View Post
    I find BlackBerry keyboards unusable.
    Funny story. I spent the night with my brother last night while traveling in Birmingham. We were "geeking" out with our phones after his kids went to bed. I picked up his BB to dial a phone # and had to hand it back to him! I swear I could not even dial a phone # on his BB! Sad I know.
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    Hah! I got the 'Other Input' methods back. Transcriber works VERY well for me. LS, I wonder if you have it on your Imagio? According to the VZW user manual (pdf Chapter 4) you do.
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    i just looked at the moto photon and the pentile display to me is kinda annoying but my wife didn't notice until i showed her...worth looking at first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hook View Post
    Okay, I'll say it, although I thought I had. My onscreen portrait keyboard is infinitely superior to my BlackBerry Bold hard keyboard, which I find worthless. On my Nexus, I type out emails and even write paragraphs at a time. I wouldn't think of doing that on my BlackBerry.

    I can't address Horizontal sliders. Never had one. and I rarely ever use my Nexus One in landscape, except for the Apple BT keyboard, which I rarely use because, if I'm going to haul around that, I'll just use my Neo.
    I've pounded out countless texts and long emails on a touchscreen with zero problems. Written many posts on the fly for Gear Diary that way too.

    I think most of the people who are extremely dismissive of touchscreen keyboards have not tried them for any length of time (5 minutes in best buy is not the same as using it for a month) and/or are used to resistive touchscreens, where the keyboard input is far more frustrating.

    I will also say that out of all the virtual keyboards I've tried, the default android one is the worst, hands down. Swype and Better Keyboard are MUCH better. On iOS, the iPhone keyboard has a slight learning curve (I'd say for most people it's a day or two, no more than a week tops) and then you're banging away happily. It's different to use a virtual keyboard but once you get used to the light touch and smooth response it's really hard to go back to pushing physical phone buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by questionfear View Post
    I will also say that out of all the virtual keyboards I've tried, the default android one is the worst, hands down. Swype and Better Keyboard are MUCH better.

    In my opinion, it depends on which default android one we are talking about. I agree with you up through Froyo. However, the default Gingerbread keyboard is so good, in my experience, I never reinstalled Swype (Got tired of having to reinstall everytime I changed OS version, which started happening more rapidly once I was rooted ). I find it excellent, unless it's because CM made some modification to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varjak View Post
    I think LS is right. Most comments are pitched to the idea that on-screen keyboards can be 'almost as good' or 'acclimated to;' instead of described as outright better. One comment I remember from a while ago on BH was that even with a good on-screen keyboard, it obscures much of the screen real estate, even on large-screen phones. OTOH, I think Graffiti for Android might be a very good solution, if the touchscreen is sensitive and accurate.
    My dad has a MotoROI and the side slider keyboard is pretty much in mint condition. He never got used to it. The on-screen keyboard is loathable in his opinion. So what does he use? Graffiti for Android, and he jots pretty fast.

    My elder sister has a BB Storm 2, no physical keyboard at all, and she already got used to it. It's far from ideal, but she's not into tweaking, so she won't allow me to search for a replacement app.

    My younger sister has a Nokia with touchscreen, but it's a big featurephone, not a smartphone. She's not into smartphones. With the usual featurephone keyboard configuration, 123 ABC, she types fast as hell.

    I'm still into a Treo 680 and wondering what's gonna be with my life when I finally have to give it up. I input on a Graffiti 90% / physical keyboard 10 % ratio. The on-screen keyboard is one of the things I have used less on this Earth. The Treo keyboard is one of the best mobile keyboard designs ever. Good key size, good key-to-key spacing, perceptible key click, good overall density. Even sausage fingers can deal with it easily. Ah, and I also use a Palm UWK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hook View Post
    In my opinion, it depends on which default android one we are talking about. I agree with you up through Froyo. However, the default Gingerbread keyboard is so good, in my experience, I never reinstalled Swype (Got tired of having to reinstall everytime I changed OS version, which started happening more rapidly once I was rooted ). I find it excellent, unless it's because CM made some modification to it.
    True, and something I forgot about (I only use gingerbread on my NOOKcolor, and I attributed the positive experience to the bigger screen). I use the Froyo keyboard despite how crappy it is because on an aging Droid it's less resource intensive than a 3rd-party add-on.

    Still, I like using even the Froyo KB over the hard kb for many things, and when I was using the Pixi more I really missed having a collapsible KB. A fixed KB is helpful if you ONLY do email, but for everything else it's a huge pain since it takes up valuable space that could be used to interact with a bigger screen (IMO, of course, but if you're planning on browsing the web, reading a book, etc., more screen is generally better.)
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    QF,

    You do know that GingerBread Keyboard is available for free in the Market and can be installed on Froyo?

    https://market.android.com/details?i...=search_result


    I used that on Froyo on my DINC2 up until Amazon had Swiftkey X as the free app the day.
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