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    I would like the mobile experts over here to clarify my doubt regarding the internal memory of mobile phones.


    The internal memory differs from phone to phone in nokia or any other brand for that matter. For instance, the memory in Nokia C5-03 is mere 40 MB whereas in Nokia C7, it is a whopping 8 GB. My question is this: whether browsing the internet and zooming on webpages is affected by the amount of internal memory? Also, what difference does it make to a user of a phone with a 40 MB memory and an 8 GB memory if his main use is browsing the net.


    Kindly clarify in detail the implications of the internal memory of mobile phones.

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    as far as i understand for browsing there is no difference. Just means you need a micro SD card to store more information. The biggest thing for browsing is the screen size and processor. Also memory speeds can also very but you can't tell what the speeds are without testing them. Also ram can effect browsing especially if your using tabs or several windows.

    I am sure someone else can better clarify for you.

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    On cell phones with browsers, part of the memory is used as random access memory, or RAM, and the rest is used as storage, standard flash memory. Browsing requires RAM, to hold the web pages, the OS, the browser, etc. The more available, the faster the browsing will be. If the web pages and other data has to be written to an external SD, things will be very slow, because flash memory writes are slow, especially when bottlenecked through a USB interface. Having more memory means a faster browsing experience, just as it does on a PC. Paging memory to storage, and reading it back, is always slow, and the more paging required, the slower everything runs. A device with 40MB is going to be slow for pretty much everything. The phones with 8GB of memory, or more, don't have that much RAM, though, it's mostly flash memory, which is used as storage, like a hard drive or an SD card. It's faster than an external card because the bus is wider, but slower than RAM. The short answer is that more memory is always better, no matter the device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGosnell View Post
    On cell phones with browsers, part of the memory is used as random access memory, or RAM, and the rest is used as storage, standard flash memory. Browsing requires RAM, to hold the web pages, the OS, the browser, etc. The more available, the faster the browsing will be. If the web pages and other data has to be written to an external SD, things will be very slow, because flash memory writes are slow, especially when bottlenecked through a USB interface. Having more memory means a faster browsing experience, just as it does on a PC. Paging memory to storage, and reading it back, is always slow, and the more paging required, the slower everything runs. A device with 40MB is going to be slow for pretty much everything. The phones with 8GB of memory, or more, don't have that much RAM, though, it's mostly flash memory, which is used as storage, like a hard drive or an SD card. It's faster than an external card because the bus is wider, but slower than RAM. The short answer is that more memory is always better, no matter the device.
    .....some phones internal memory is slower than SD cards ......so going to a SD card can speed it up with your notion. My tablets have memory speeds of 5-10MBps my SD card is 15-20MBps read and 5-12MBps write.....so your statement is not accurate. You would have to test the phones first to be sure

    EDIT: i reread your post and he is talking about internal flash not ram. 40mb vs 8g so as i said:

    1: most importantly is the cpu. Cell phones are very slow so typically the cpu will be the first bottle neck
    2. ram....which phone has more ram.
    after those 2 things you have 3 which is least important. If both phones have the exact same thing than number 3 comes into play but it has very little effect unless your working with 256 and less ram
    3 is internal flash...the least likely bottleneck


    Nokia C5-03 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Nokia C7-00 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    the c7 has a slightly faster cpu and i think more ram so the c7 will be faster because of 1 and 2...3 will have little effect. Also i would say a marginally faster experience...maybe 10-15% faster

    a semi modern anroid phone will run laps around these two phones. The original droid is like twice as fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGosnell View Post
    .....ok and...???

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    Thanks a lot for throwing some light on my doubts regarding memory of mobile phones. Does this imply that if I am just looking to browsing the internet on my mobile phone, I will have to check if the phone has enough RAM and not just large storage memory? And how much is "recommended RAM" so that I get a smooth browsing experience? Because I would like to decide between the C7 and the C5-03...the difference in price is big enough. Will the web pages hang in C5-03 because of the lower memory?
    Thanks in advance for clarifications.

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    i would say it will hang do to the slow processor than anything else.

    But i honestly am not sure....never touched these. I know my E71x is fairly slow but your is faster than my e71x so you should be alright. Just the stats between my e71x and those 2 phones on wikipedia.org Also get opera mobile...best broswer ever


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E71
    well i just looked this up and yours should run much faster than mine. Browsing should be fairly smooth i think. As long as its not heavy graphics page.

    edit well both should work fine but i would still go with an android phone over this personally. The original droid phone is way better in my eyes personally.
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    I don't really know enough about Nokias to make a recommendation. It depends on the OS as well as the hardware. I assume the Nokias are running Symbian, and I've never used a Symbian phone.
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    If you're running Symbian S60, just install apps to the SD card. That option will always pop up when you install apps from the Ovi Store or directly from the browser.

    The native Symbian browser is a stinker, so you're best bet is to download Opera Mini from the Ovi Store and install it on the SD card where it will also cache there.
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