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11-09-2005, 09:11 AM
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Colligan Says Palm Very Committed to Palm OS
In an attempt to quell some lingering doubts, Palm's CEO has released an open letter expressing his company's strong support for the Palm OS.
Read more at http://www.brighthand.com/article/Co...m_OS?site=Palm
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11-09-2005, 02:15 PM
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Mobile Evangelist
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Same guys?
These are the same guys who are committed to shipping a Cobalt device? Are the from the same bunch that promised a dozen Cobalt powered phones in 2005? They are the ones who shipped the Lifedrive, T5, all the way back to the M130 color bit-level debacle?
Why in the world would me believe a word he says?
Sorry, I just had a fight with my wife and so Palm gets dumped on.
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11-09-2005, 03:19 PM
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Mobile Consultant
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Re: Same guys?
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Originally posted by Timothy Rapson
These are the same guys who are committed to shipping a Cobalt device? Are the from the same bunch that promised a dozen Cobalt powered phones in 2005?
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i have had many fights with my wife so you have my sympathy.
but palm never showed much interest in cobalt, read this from 2004:
http://www.brighthand.com/article/No...2006?site=Palm
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11-09-2005, 04:32 PM
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How else could anyone put down their own OS... Lets choose MS Mobile to strengthen our product line..... How about crush and admit defeat.....
The Palm OS is dead.. end of story. A CEO with half a brain would have jumped to MS Mobile too if they were in the same boat.
Now that Palm doesn't even own the rights to their own software, why should they want to promote it. The only way they could ever get it back is to show that "THEY" do not want it and maybe Access will sell it back to them or dump it....
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11-10-2005, 02:43 PM
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It's a fact that a large majority of businesses around the world use a Microsoft-based infrastructure across their IT assets. And many of those companies simply aren't open to products that use another OS. Some of our carriers also have been asking for a Treo on this platform. Finally, many end users in the world are attracted to the familiar Windows user interface. We can either answer that marketplace demand with a Windows-based product, or we can walk away from that business.
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In the olden days, it was Palm's job to market and convince consumers to choose THEIR OS over PPC. They made some good arguments, but as of late, there aare still reasons to choose PPC over pOS, and that's excluding the hardware. pOS could use many needed reamps. NOt to mention other software to fill the void of certain business needs
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11-10-2005, 06:07 PM
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Amazing - Treo 700 will tell the story.
How the Treo 700 is recieved will tell a story, if it quickly becomes the major seller for Palm, they they will have no choice but to consider WM5 as an operating system for other handhelds.
There was a shc600 conjoined unit from Verizon, it was a dud and a Palm OS device, but a winner as a MS device. So much so tht the Palm version was discontinued. (I have the unit letters wrong but you'll know what phone I mean if you look it up)
The REAL issue may be compatability, if MicroSOft includes the Push e-mail in all new server operating systems you cut back and save $10 of thousands of dollers for your servers. Making WM5, a much better choice then Blackberry or a treo.
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11-10-2005, 08:04 PM
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I find this letter the strongest indicator yet of the imminent end of PalmOS as a viable personal AND business solution. The corpo-speak and ambiguity in the language essentially translates to 'hey devs, don't bother what you just saw behind the curtain - focus on making your PalmOS wares while we sell WM5 based hardware. Oh, and since we have no idea what Access/palmSource plans to do with PalmOS/LiPalm -- and we have no plans to release Cobalt, we're only speaking the most general terms with respect to future Palm Inc. hardware running a new rev of PalmOS.'
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11-10-2005, 08:54 PM
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No way, you've got it all wrong, all of you. Palm OS is not at issue here, nor WM5.0 nor pLinux. Apple's iPod OS, that's the interface of the future! Just ask a certain fellow member of Brighthand who is most vocal on the subject (though surprisingly silent in the face of current events, such as the lukewarm reception for video iPods) - Apple knows exactly what consumers want in a PDA.
And business users? The Apple solution won't quite work for them. So they're more likely to want Blackberries, with their dumbed-down PIM and very limiting connectivity options and tools. What the executives and salesmen want are fast, efficient chat clients, with (*cough* BBC debacle *cough*) secure push email and nice little thumb buttons to give them something to do during meetings.
Palm OS had it's turn. Now's the time for cool devices with purty scrollwheels and that oh-so-clean white look. Don't be too surprised when the Treo 750 runs more like a menu system than a computer, and looks good on the dance floor too.
I think Palm as an OS has a couple or a few years left in it. Fading fast at the moment, sure, falling 36% this third quarter according to Gartner, but still there's a substantial and loyal userbase out there willing to bet on Palm a little while longer. I'd give them another two major device releases to go before they become another Casio and sort of vanish from the Western market.
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11-11-2005, 12:57 PM
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Mobile Consultant
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Quote:
Originally posted by pixelator
I find this letter the strongest indicator yet of the imminent end of PalmOS as a viable personal AND business solution. The corpo-speak and ambiguity in the language essentially translates to 'hey devs, don't bother what you just saw behind the curtain - focus on making your PalmOS wares while we sell WM5 based hardware. Oh, and since we have no idea what Access/palmSource plans to do with PalmOS/LiPalm -- and we have no plans to release Cobalt, we're only speaking the most general terms with respect to future Palm Inc. hardware running a new rev of PalmOS.'
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[sarcasm]this is exactly what some one who isn't drinking the microsoft cool-aid would say. [/sarcasm]
of course palmsource has told palm what their plans for plinux are. every palm developer at the last palmsource conference knows. you weren't there because you were saving your money for the next pocketpc conference.
yes, i'm a palm appoligist. i don't pretent to be anything else. any one listening to pixelator's comments knows he pretends to be unbiased but isn't.
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11-11-2005, 01:15 PM
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pixelator want to prove me wrong? give us a link to some thing you've said that's bad about microsoft. we've read dozens of bad comments from you about palm. if you aren't a microsoft appologist then you must have said some thing bad about them. let's see one.
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