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Old 09-27-2004, 12:59 PM   #1
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Arrow Brighthand's First Thoughts on the HP iPAQ hx4700

Brighthand's Ed Hardy has had HP's first Pocket PC with a VGA screen for a short time, but he's willing to share his first impressions.

Read more at http://www.brighthand.com/article/HP...eview?site=PPC

Update: Ed has fininished his full review of the hx4700.

Read more at http://www.brighthand.com/article/HP...eview?site=PPC
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:55 PM   #2
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You actually said out all I want to say. Hx4700 is a great machine, but too many drawbacks, esp the footprint and touchpda.

I can't imagine going back to use a jornada 568 size PDA. I have 3 laptops and I never use the touchpad.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:05 PM   #3
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Whoa. That thing is huge. More like a small tablet device than a "handheld". After using one of the Sony's I realized how huge they were. This beast dwarfs the Sony in the pic! I'm sure it has usefulness for some, but for a hanheld to actually use and carry on a daily basis, it seems near worthless. I bet HP will sell a little wheeled cart to tote this thing through airports and such. :-)

I can't wait to see that big VGA screen tho. This will either sell to corporates with a specific need or folks who buy off the spec sheet.
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Old 09-27-2004, 03:37 PM   #4
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Ed, have you tried PIE using VGA_SE, it seems to me that you have not tried that. Is there where the beauty of this machine is and I believe that you have missed that.
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Originally posted by huangzhinong
You actually said out all I want to say. Hx4700 is a great machine, but too many drawbacks, esp the footprint and touchpda.

I can't imagine going back to use a jornada 568 size PDA. I have 3 laptops and I never use the touchpad.
What?!?! A Jornada 560 series PDA is only...
(searching HP website)
5.20 x 3.01 x 0.68 inches (132 x 76.5 x 17.2 mm), whereas Hx4700 is at
(searching HP website some more)
5.17 x 3.03 x .59 inches...

...

Oh well, they are the same size...

Anyway, my main thing is:
Please don't add insults to our injuries by mentioning our beloved and discontinued PDA.

An Jornada 567 owner...
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Old 09-27-2004, 04:16 PM   #6
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What?!?! A Jornada 560 series PDA is only...
(searching HP website)
5.20 x 3.01 x 0.68 inches (132 x 76.5 x 17.2 mm), whereas Hx4700 is at
(searching HP website some more)
5.17 x 3.03 x .59 inches...

...

Oh well, they are the same size...

Anyway, my main thing is:
Please don't add insults to our injuries by mentioning our beloved and discontinued PDA.

An Jornada 567 owner...
Just my fault, I am previous Jornada 565 and 568 owner, and love jornada so much.

Hx4700 has so much features from Jornada 568:
1. light detector
2. extra connectors in battary place for expansion
3. CF support
4. flip-cover
5. size, weight and price
6. record button and long-hold press button preset
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Ed, have you tried PIE using VGA_SE, it seems to me that you have not tried that.
You're right, I haven't put VGA_SE on it yet, but at this point I'm reviewing the device as it comes out of the box.

VGA_SE sounds really cool; I just wish it wasn't required.
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VGA_SE sounds really cool; I just wish it wasn't required.
In this point, you are absolutely right it's like MS and OEMs have not learned yet how to use the VGA at full. I was hoping that after a year using it in the e800 they were coming with something new in the hx4700 but Oops, they did it again...

I can tell you one thing once you tried the PIE or NetFront in real vga using VGA_SE you wont want to go back to QVGA
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I wish VGA_SE was included in the OS and that you would not have to reset to change resolutions. I hope there will be a way to change resolution on the fly.
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Hi all,

Great looking PPC but like websurfing, I question a touchpad interface on a PDA form factor--regardless of OS (Linux, Symbian, Palm, WinMobile or others).

For example, web-surfing. Webpages have more than an 8-1/2x11 screenfull of info (or more). To surf via any PDA makes sense when the website visited is optimized for a PDA screen rather than scrolling through an 8-1/2x11, 11x17, etc. website by PDA screenful. So, it is with this line of thinking, I wonder if a touchpad is a better suited for a laptop rather a PDA.

As such, can it be feasible to put a laptop-sized touchpad on a PDA--in other words, can you put a touchpad with the same dimensions as the ones on laptops onto a PDA?

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