Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

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    Default Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

    Hello all!

    I'm (again) testing pTunes, to see if I finally ditch Aeroplayer. I wrote Normsoft, told them about the power drain bug, and they immediately sent me the 5.0.1 beta, so no problem there. However, I found a few glitches, seemingly related to the audio processing part of the program:

    1. Whenever volume boost is enabled (at whatever boost level), if a song is playing and I keep the down button (in the 5-way nav) pressed, the volume will be lowered, but pTunes will also jump to the next song in the list. This happens only if the initial volume is about 80% or higher.

    2. The same thing happens if I enable equalizer or bass boost.

    If volume boost is set to off and equalizer/bass boost are disabled, pTunes will act normally when lowering the volume (won't jump to next song).

    3. This may be skin-dependent, but when using the Hi-Fi skin (or any variant), if I repeatedly press the on-screen button that cycles between equalizer off, equalizer on, and bass boost, pTunes will jump to thenext song in the list.

    Has anyone else seen this behavior. Are these known bugs?

    Thanks for any input.
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    Default Re: Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

    I haven't noticed those quirks; but will check again if I have time. I went right to the 5.01 beta because of some confusion about my upgrade and Normsoft told me to go straight to that version. I'm pretty sure I always have the equalizer and bass boost enabled.

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    Default Re: Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

    very similar behavior, Raspy!

    to get the Down arrow to make the song change, I had to have the Volume boost set to at least +6db (+3db didn't exhibit the behavior). iirc <all of 5 minutes ago> I also had the EQ and/or Bass boost engaged.

    now, the "tap-tap-tap repeatedly" test of the EQ/Bass boost icon was just as you described. the 2 skins I used were HiFi-Jump and Cobalt -- same behavior in each.

    and in my case, TX <haven't tried on the 755p or Centro>, even though the songs were set to play
    in order, when they jumped it was seemingly random.
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    Default Re: Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

    Good to know I'm not crazy! So they seem to be bugs of the 5.0.1 beta. I think I'll drop a few lines to the guys at Normsoft, see what they have to say about it. I'd like these issues to be solved soon, because my trial will end soon and I almost always keep volume boost on, so these bugs can turn into major annoyances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raspabalsa View Post
    Good to know I'm not crazy! So they seem to be bugs of the 5.0.1 beta. I think I'll drop a few lines to the guys at Normsoft, see what they have to say about it. I'd like these issues to be solved soon, because my trial will end soon and I almost always keep volume boost on, so these bugs can turn into major annoyances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jigwashere View Post
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    Default Re: Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by RickAgresta View Post
    to get the Down arrow to make the song change, I had to have the Volume boost set to at least +6db (+3db didn't exhibit the behavior).
    On mine, the bug will manifest even at +3db. I also found another symptom: when volme boost is enabled, the point at which pTunes jumps to the next song (while holding the down button) depends on the volume boost level. If I start at maximum volume and have the volume boost set at +3db the jump will occur when the volume slider gets below around 80%. But if I set the boost to +6db, the jump will happen at around 60% of the slider. At +9db, it happens a bit under 50%, and so on. At +15db it happens at around 15%. Clearly something very strange is going on behind the curtains.

    Just to make things clear, keeping the Up button pressed does not trigger the jump. Volume will rise normally, at any boost level or EQ setting.
    Quote Originally Posted by RickAgresta View Post
    now, the "tap-tap-tap repeatedly" test of the EQ/Bass boost icon was just as you described. the 2 skins I used were HiFi-Jump and Cobalt -- same behavior in each.
    Interesting... so it's not skin-dependent.
    Quote Originally Posted by RickAgresta View Post
    and in my case, TX <haven't tried on the 755p or Centro>, even though the songs were set to play
    in order, when they jumped it was seemingly random.
    Wow... that is weird. On my TX it will always jump to the next song if set to play in order. If set to shuffle, it will jump to any other song in the list.
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    Hah hah... that's one weird-looking cat, Rick! Kind of freaky too.

    I just wrote Normsoft asking about this bug (or bugs?, all the weird behavior seems to be related). Let's wait to see what they say about this (and please keep the crazy behavior at a minimum, because I gave them a link to this thread so they can follow our discussion)

    Not bug-related, but I'm almost ready to make the jump, ditch Aeroplayer, and keep pTunes. There are a couple of deciding factors. Most important, pTunes keeps up the playback while I'm surfing the web with Blazer. Aeroplayer couldn't do this: whenever I was playing music, if I turned WiFi on, playback would stutter a couple of seconds. When data is being transfered, playback will stutter and sometimes stop altogether. I couldn't really enjoy the music with Aeroplayer while online.

    On pTunes playback may hiccup once or twice when connecting, but then will keep up quite nicely.

    Another factor is playlists. Even though pTunes seems basic compared to most PC media players, it's way ahead of Aeroplayer IMO.

    I think I'll wait to see what Normsoft says about this bug, and then I'll make a final decision.
    Last edited by raspabalsa; 04-14-2010 at 12:51 AM.
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    Default Re: Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

    I received a reply from Normsoft. They say this is a known bug, and it's in their to-do list, but there isn't a fix for it yet. We'll have to wait. in the meantime I'll try to adapt by either refraining from using the volume boost, or avoiding reducing the volume continuously.

    On the downside, I'm 2 days away from the end of my trial. I think I'll purchase pTunes, but I'm not sure what version to buy. I'd like the Deluxe, but it costs twice as much as the Basic version. I'm getting to like internet radio and really love gapless playback, so I guess it's going to be Deluxe after all. Decisions, decisions...
    Last edited by raspabalsa; 04-15-2010 at 12:16 AM.
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    Default Re: Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

    Raspy, you could wait until the next sale (by which time maybe the bug is fixed). I got the Deluxe update (from V. 3) for half price.

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    Default Re: Testing pTunes 5.0.1 (again), found some glitches, are they known bugs?

    That sounds interesting, Varjak. Is there a way to know if a sale is coming up soon? Half price for the Deluxe version is a no-brainer, I'd jump at it right away.
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