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09-21-2011, 04:44 PM #11
Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
Raiders... now that term fits in here so snug that you can't think all these events could obey a good nature. Raiders, racketeers, mobsters, all of them loot on funds they didn't raise. In much of the digital tech world, I am kinda disappointed with current events, like corporations raising their market value leveraging on lawsuits and bloated patent infringement claims, or putting on the top chair somebody that worked with the competitor and all of a sudden behaves like a newbie (perhaps their employers figured he would share secrets like if there were no NDAs), or everybody trying to move into the software business like if we needed no hardware at all to use said software. Raising their market value, essentially with speculation, instead of truly innovating and increasing sales rates.
So for them, employees are expendable assets
"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda. "Nothing is neither wear-proof, nor fail-proof, least fool-proof." - HAL. "Indeed, fool-proof inventions have been attempted, but don't work, fools are pretty witty ones." - Murphy's Law. "Even worse than a traitor, is a dumb@$$ with initiative." - Gral. Santa Ana
Link: Palm resets
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09-22-2011, 10:49 AM #12
Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
Here is a link to a story about just how insane the hiring process for this fool was: Surprising Revelations About HP's Board
It's probably also a clear indication that they are screwed from this point.
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09-22-2011, 03:25 PM #13
Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
The Wall Street Journal is now reporting that HP is going to bring in Meg Whitman as the replacement CEO.
Call me crazy, but when you're worried about financial mismanagement and huge monetary losses, why would you turn to someone who spent $143 million dollars on a failed campaign to become Governor of California?
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09-22-2011, 04:00 PM #14
Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
At least it was her own money, in large part...
She seems to have done well at eBay, and hey! she imported the TeletubbiesMy useful BH links -- BH FAQS/repair options/digitizer discussions
~"Friends are the Fambly we choose" ~"Shared pain is diminished, shared joy is increased"
~inanimate objects are smarter than we give them credit for~our lives are too short to not help others
~"when you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it" Dilbert 9/22/09
~RAiD: making no decision is really making the choice to do nothing, about something
~The beauty of learning to let go of anger and those things we cannot change is that you can make choices
and deal with things on your own terms and not have them affect your whole day or those around you.

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09-22-2011, 04:22 PM #15
Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
She might be the top person available to take that job. Who would take that job? Even with the crazy parachute when they fire you in a year, who could possibly want this job?
This job is a referendum on Leo's failed push to a new direction, but turning that around, in the public's eye, is going to be hard, hard work. Working for a crazy board that let go Mark Hurd for innuendo and couldn't be bothered to interview his replacement.
Meg has to come in and say, "we are going to stay around in the PC business, though now we have made our competition stronger in a market that has become thoroughly commoditized." She has to decide what to with WebOS, a brilliant product that has left a trail of destruction in its path.
Mostly she needs to move quickly and make sure all the blame gets hung on the outgoing guy and not the people who hired him. Also, Leo is the guy who brought her to the board.
Awesome stuff.
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09-22-2011, 04:25 PM #16Mobile Deity
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Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
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Palm Devices List (updated 10/17/2011)
sharp - early 1990's -> palm iii (late 1998) ... T|T3 -> ipaq 3115 (returned to store) ->TX ... Treo 650-> 755p ->bb8830+iPod Touch->RAZR M + iPhone5+iPad
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09-22-2011, 05:26 PM #17Banned
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Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
I'd like a reference on that Goldman tidbit. Maybe she was briefly on the board, but I don't think she ever worked there.
And I think your opinion of GSCO is tainted by the media, which knows next to nothing.
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09-22-2011, 06:11 PM #18
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09-22-2011, 06:26 PM #19
Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
My useful BH links -- BH FAQS/repair options/digitizer discussions
~"Friends are the Fambly we choose" ~"Shared pain is diminished, shared joy is increased"
~inanimate objects are smarter than we give them credit for~our lives are too short to not help others
~"when you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it" Dilbert 9/22/09
~RAiD: making no decision is really making the choice to do nothing, about something
~The beauty of learning to let go of anger and those things we cannot change is that you can make choices
and deal with things on your own terms and not have them affect your whole day or those around you.

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09-23-2011, 12:42 AM #20
Re: HP Lays Off Hundreds of Former Palm Employees Discussion
eBay certainly flourished under her administration, but the general consensus of most of the histories of eBay which have been written is that that is owed entirely to the fact that the internet exploded during that time period, and eBay had the luck to become the de facto online auction site. Basically, the position taken by most of the former eBay people is that they could have done exactly as well as they did with two slices of burnt whole wheat toast for a CEO.



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