FCC Approves Smaller Bluetooth SDIO Card

[Ed Hardy]

There will soon be a new option for those who would like to add Bluetooth to their handheld but don't want a large card sticking out of their SD slot.

Read more at http://www.brighthand.com/article/FC...ooth_SDIO_Card

[Scott R]

I thought I heard about this a while ago. Is this the third version of this card or is it the same 2nd version I heard about a while back which, apparently, must be moving through development slowly?

Scott

[Ed Hardy]

What you read before was an announcement from Toshiba that it was developing this card. It just took a long time to get FCC permission.

[jpzr]

Originally posted by Ed
There will soon be a new option for those who would like to add Bluetooth to their handheld but don't want a large card sticking out of their SD slot.

Read more at http://www.brighthand.com/article/FC...ooth_SDIO_Card

haba haba haba
that's small baby looks cool
but I just wonder why Toshiba couldn't deliver drivers for this baby also for MS Smarpthone!!!???

lately Socket Comm said that they will "not make drivers for MS Smarpthone, because it has no SDIO slot" (what is not truth) while they made drivers for Pocket PC. Both MS Smarpthone and Pocket PC run on Windows CE 3.0 so for God's sake this Socket Comm kind of sucks! What about Toshiba? Couldn't they make drivers for MS Smarpthone? Any plans of Toshiba about it?

[tuco]

Originally posted by jpzr


lately Socket Comm said that they will "not make drivers for MS Smarpthone, because it has no SDIO slot" (what is not truth) while they made drivers for Pocket PC. Both MS Smarpthone and Pocket PC run on Windows CE 3.0 so for God's sake this Socket Comm kind of sucks!

jpzr,

I'd like to see some kind of validation for your statement.

Plus, can you tell me if the MS Smartphone has bSquare's SDIO Now software and driver onboard?

' Manufacturers of the Smartphone that elect to build in externally accessible SDIO slots and incorporate BSQUARE?s SDIO Now! Software will enable the use of Socket?s SDIO connectivity products with the Smartphone to transfer information between the Smartphone and other electronic devices. '
http://www.socketcom.com/about/press/read.asp?ID=66

While your at it and since the SmartPhone has a micro version of CE, tell me how easy it is to port something like a 2Mb Drakar Bluetooth stack to a smaller memory. ( physical and virtual )

Suck on that for awhile. TIA!

[jpzr]

Originally posted by BillytheKid
Plus, can you tell me if the MS Smartphone has bSquare's SDIO Now software and driver onboard?
...
While your at it and since the SmartPhone has a micro version of CE, tell me how easy it is to port something like a 2Mb Drakar Bluetooth stack to a smaller memory. ( physical and virtual )

Suck on that for awhile. TIA!

Microsoft here:

http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/smartphone/hardware/default.asp

says that Orange SPV cell phone (I don't know about other MS Smarpthone powered phones) supports SDIO.

I don't know anything about "bCircle's SDIO" or something. Look, if I am a consumer and it says "SDIO is there" then is it not enough? It should be enough for god's sake!

but not, you people keep on saying that it is not Socket Comm that sucks ("no drivers for smarpthone, go away stupid customer!") but that it is the fault of the poor smartphone device itself....


how it is easy to port to smaller footprint? let's put it this way: it depends how lazy given person is or how lame given company is....

conclusion: Toshiba and socket comm should provider drivers for MS Smarpthone and basta!!!

[tuco]

Originally posted by jpzr


I don't know anything about "bCircle's SDIO" or something.

jpzr,

Thats quite obvious.

Try a primer and maybe you'll understand...
http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/sdiotypes.htm

I'd still like to see validation for your earlier statement...

' lately Socket Comm said that they will "not make drivers for MS Smarpthone, because it has no SDIO slot"

TIA!

[cecina]

This must be the one. Toshiba updated Bluetooth SD Card. This Card works with Toshiba PPC's only.
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2002_09/pr2501.htm

Palm has a Bluetooth SD Card and bSquare SDIO Now Program supports PPC SDIO advantages.

Can SDIO Be Added to Most Pocket PCs? http://www.brighthand.com/article/SDIO_Everywhere

Pocket PC using XScale SDIO Performance http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/xscalesdio.htm http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/sdiotypes.htm

Pocket PC 2002 Comparison (Added) iPAQ 5450, 1900, Dell Axim X5, Viewsonic V35 Pocket PCs to the comparison. http://www.cewindows.net/wce/30/ppc2002/ppc2002comp.htm

SD and SDIO Cards (Pictures) http://www.cewindows.net/reviews/ces2003-2.htm

[jpzr]

Originally posted by BillytheKid

I'd still like to see validation for your earlier statement...

' lately Socket Comm said that they will "not make drivers for MS Smarpthone, because it has no SDIO slot"

TIA!

some guy from microsoft.public.smartphone was saying that Socket Comm answered to his e-mail request by e-mail in this way!

see here: socket com answers about bluetooth sdio in smarpthone


> FYI, this is the reply I received from Sean Lombardi of SocketCom.com
>
> Question: Do you have an SDIO Bluetooth card for the Orange SPV?
>
> Answer: Sorry the smart phones do not have IO capability in the SD slot.
> That is something that is in the works in future smart phones. The current
> slot is memory only.
>

[tuco]

Originally posted by jpzr
some guy from microsoft.public.smartphone was saying that Socket Comm answered to his e-mail request by e-mail in this way!

> FYI, this is the reply I received from Sean Lombardi of SocketCom.com
>
> Question: Do you have an SDIO Bluetooth card for the Orange SPV?
>
> Answer: Sorry the smart phones do not have IO capability in the SD slot.
> That is something that is in the works in future smart phones. The current
> slot is memory only.
>

jpzr,

Thanks for the reply!

IMO, you are misconstruing what was said as a matter of semantics. The Orange Smartphone may very well be hardware wise SDIO 'capable', but without the bSquare SDIO software and driver onboard, is not I/O capable. I'll put the Viewsonic V35 PPC in this same category.

In your response on the link you provided you make a valid point...

'I think that Socket Com simply doesn't see a market big enough, to justify investment in developing of drivers for smartphones.'

Fair enough. I thought that generally a single product does not constitute market demand. Since the next version of Windows CE will have the MSFT Bluetooth stack in it (and most likely the SmartPhone would be close behind) why would it pay for the 3rd party engineering resources to do the work??

I ask you these questions...

Why can't the phone manufacturers and Microsoft come to 3rd party developer companies like Socket to ensure support for their devices?? Why does it have to be be, build it and they quickly follow??

Not to mention, aside from HEADSET profile, what would you use a Bluetooth SDIO card for in your SmartPhone??
OBEX is a good answer as is ActiveSync, but no need for DUN or LAN Access Profile, eh?

Cecina,

Thanks for your links. Seems I have found my Tuco.