Direct to PC sync of Pimlical now available!

[Hook]

Yeah, well that's what I thought.

I started with DateBk when it was still WeekView on my Palm IIIxe. And it synced with Outlook.

I try to be flexible, but sometimes "evolution" just doesn't want to let me do what I want to do. Which is to simply sync my Outlook calendar with an acceptable calendar on my phone.

I don't want to buy their desktop calendar program (which I don't want to use) in order to sync with my phone calendar. And I certainly don't want to have to sync through Google to make it happen.

Seriously, am I the only person who feels this way?

Take a look at Pocket Informant. It syncs directly with Outlook with no requirement to use Google. There is a free 14-day trial version available in the market. It syncs Calendar and tasks. You might also look at Companion Link and Deja Office. CL is pricey, but has a 14-Day trial.

I like the Pimlical Desktop and it was worth the move to have a smooth,fast, reliable and anxiety-free sync experience. And it helps the Gorillas. ;-)

However, I agree. If you don't want to do Google, all of this is much harder than it should have to be.

[Varjak]

I actually prefer a standalone desktop module. I don't know what the pricing is; but there should be a decently priced 'package' of the app and desktop app. From what I know though, Datebk was very expensive for what it was, even if it was very good. Especially since, at the time, the Palm PIMs were so good on their own in my experience.

[RickAgresta]

I actually prefer a standalone desktop module. I don't know what the pricing is; but there should be a decently priced 'package' of the app and desktop app. From what I know though, Datebk was very expensive for what it was, even if it was very good. Especially since, at the time, the Palm PIMs were so good on their own in my experience.

Take your experience with the Palm PIMS, and improve it immeasurably (not a small improvement, a HUGE improvement), and you'll have an inkling of how good Datebk4/5/6 are.

As for bundled package/special offer for owners, that has been offered occasionally in the past.

[internetpilot]

That's the big difference between Datebk and Pimlical -- PalmOS. It was the OS not the app that allowed for desktop syncing, which is why you could sync Datebk to Outlook, but now you have to have Pimlical desktop.

Personally, I got tired of waiting, gave up, and moved on, and I'm now using the Google Cloud by way of Calengoo, which at least bypasses the ridiculous limitations inherent to the Android Calendar. Mediocre (at best) PIMs are just something you have to accept as part of moving on after the death (by suicide) of PalmOS.

[Hook]

That's the big difference between Datebk and Pimlical -- PalmOS. It was the OS not the app that allowed for desktop syncing, which is why you could sync Datebk to Outlook, but now you have to have Pimlical desktop.

Personally, I got tired of waiting, gave up, and moved on, and I'm now using the Google Cloud by way of Calengoo, which at least bypasses the ridiculous limitations inherent to the Android Calendar. Mediocre (at best) PIMs are just something you have to accept as part of moving on after the death (by suicide) of PalmOS.

There are a lot of good reasons for using Google for a lot of people. However, if you don't have those reasons and/or don't want to, CESD finally got it right-- the thing I think he should have done first. He created his own database for Android, created his own desktop and, perhaps most importantly, wrote his own conduit which is really like the old Palm Conduits. With the data base and conduit problem solved, I think getting the remaining PIMs going will be easy (he almost has memos ready to go). It works so well because he controls all the pieces.

[internetpilot]

There are a lot of good reasons for using Google for a lot of people. However, if you don't have those reasons and/or don't want to, CESD finally got it right-- the thing I think he should have done first. He created his own database for Android, created his own desktop and, perhaps most importantly, wrote his own conduit which is really like the old Palm Conduits. With the data base and conduit problem solved, I think getting the remaining PIMs going will be easy (he almost has memos ready to go). It works so well because he controls all the pieces.

I don't think most people (myself included) will consider that he got it right until there's an Outlook conduit (which I understand is far more "if" than "when").

Personally, I just never understood the purpose of Pimlical Desktop outside of a proof of concept or a starting part for multi-platform development of the Pimlical project. I think when I realized that he was working toward syncing only between Pimlical/A and Pimlical/D is when I lost interest. Even back in my Palm days, I didn't use Palm Desktop, so it was a stretch getting me to switch from Outlook to Google when I moved on to Android. However, there's a big difference in putting all my calendar eggs in the Google basket versus the Pimlico basket, and even now I still have Outlook as part of my automated Google syncing process.

I wish him good luck with the project, though. I was a huge fan of Datebk throughout my Palm days, and it's still on the two Palm devices I have.

[Hook]

I don't think most people (myself included) will consider that he got it right until there's an Outlook conduit (which I understand is far more "if" than "when").

Personally, I just never understood the purpose of Pimlical Desktop outside of a proof of concept or a starting part for multi-platform development of the Pimlical project. I think when I realized that he was working toward syncing only between Pimlical/A and Pimlical/D is when I lost interest. Even back in my Palm days, I didn't use Palm Desktop, so it was a stretch getting me to switch from Outlook to Google when I moved on to Android. However, there's a big difference in putting all my calendar eggs in the Google basket versus the Pimlico basket, and even now I still have Outlook as part of my automated Google syncing process.

I wish him good luck with the project, though. I was a huge fan of Datebk throughout my Palm days, and it's still on the two Palm devices I have.

<shrug> I'd love it too. Was hoping PI would do it. However, Datebk never did sync with Outlook. It simply used the Palm conduits, and Chappura and later the Palm conduits themselves made it possible to sync to Outlook. CESD doesn't use Outlook. As a one man show, I'm not really sure he would ever develop for something he doesn't use.

There is nothing out there for Android yet that does exactly and everything I need. That's why I switch around a lot trying things out. Right now, Pimlical is the best direct sync experience i have ever found on Android. I can actually make it sync to Outlook using Companion Link, but so far I haven't bothered. It is much simpler to just use the Pimlical desktop, which is very nice.

[scjjtt]

That's the big difference between Datebk and Pimlical -- PalmOS. It was the OS not the app that allowed for desktop syncing, which is why you could sync Datebk to Outlook, but now you have to have Pimlical desktop.

Personally, I got tired of waiting, gave up, and moved on, and I'm now using the Google Cloud by way of Calengoo, which at least bypasses the ridiculous limitations inherent to the Android Calendar. Mediocre (at best) PIMs are just something you have to accept as part of moving on after the death (by suicide) of PalmOS.

Internetpilot I totally agree with your last paragraph - I too have switch to Calengoo syncing directly with Google avoiding Android's calendar.

About a year ago I too supported the Gorillas and purchased Pimlical to sync my Centro to our church's Google calendar. I happen to really like syncing to the cloud - because now I don't have to personally enter all the activities myself into my calendar. I now receive all the activities that our office administrator enters, my wife's appointments (so we both know one another's schedule). I even got my son's high school basketball program to go Google calendar - now all the schedules, practices and games and times come into my calendar.

Pimilical was amazing - I was able to enter into the 21st Century using my Centro. But things started getting weird. Appointments that had repeating settings started showing up at wrong times and days. Then if I went to different times zones things really got messed up and would not fix itself when coming back to my home time zone (trust me I tried every setting there was to fix these problems within Palm OS and Pimilical without success and even contacted support but my problems could not be resolved).

Actually the ease of Google calendar was one of the attractions for me to make that final switch from Palm OS to Android. Internetpilot you expressed by very own opinion when you said...

"Mediocre (at best) PIMs are something you have to accept as part of moving on after the death (by suicide) by Palm OS."


-- Sent from my TouchPad using Communities

[Hook]

None of this was intended as hard sell of Pimlical. As I said, I'm not totally happy with any solution. One thing I did want to clarify in case it was missed is that Pimlical is now like Calengoo in the sense of it can use the dreadful Android Data base, but it has it's own database. That's what made direct sync possible and syncing theother PIMs likely.

However, Google calendar is very nice in many ways, as noted above. I use it. I think people get too caught up in the security issues of using the cloud, but for those who do not want to under any circumstances, there aren't many choices any more. I think Pimlical is a good one.

I do a lot of experimenting when new things come out just because I like to learn what's out there. What I'll finally settle on when I grow up... who knows? ;-)

[Varjak]

People often say that; but I've never seen proof of it; and I can't really imagine it doing something that I can't do already. I'm not saying it doesn't do so, I just haven't seen it. And I'm not talking about largely aesthetic issues; but functionality. Until I see specifics, I'm not really going to change my mind.